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	Forwarded this email? Subscribe here for more   Watch now   I Got To Spill The Tea with April Ryan! A recording from Joyce Vance and The Contrarian's live video Joyce Vance and The Contrarian Oct 31   READ IN APP   I got together with April Ryan yesterday on her show for The Contrarian, The Tea with April Ryan, to try to make sense out of everything that’s going on. April is a lot of fun, but she’s also whipsmart, using the experience that can only come with covering five presidential administrations to assess what is happening today. Here’s the clip from our conversation. We’re in this together, Joyce Upgrade to paid Share A guest post by The Contrarian Unflinching journalism in defense of democracy. Subscribe to The Contrarian You're currently a free subscriber to Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance . For the full experience, upgrade your subscription. Upgrade to paid   Like Comment Restack   © 2025 Joyce Vance 548 Market Street PMB 72296, San Francisco, CA 94104 Unsubscribe