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	Forwarded this email? Subscribe here for more   Watch now   Understanding The Lethal U.S. Strike On A Boat Allegedly Being Used For "Narcoterrorism" My Conversation with NYU Law Prof Ryan Goodman Joyce Vance and Ryan Goodman Nov 30   READ IN APP   Ryan Goodman joined me this morning for a live chat to help us understand the legal issues and the law surrounding Friday’s report in the Washington Post that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth gave verbal instructions to “kill everybody” in advance of the September 2 attack on a boat in the Caribbean. The administration has maintained that the vessel was being used for narcoterrorism. Other reports have suggested that people being trafficked were on board. The report was enough to generate bipartisan support in both houses of Congress for oversight. Yes, you read that sentence correctly. This morning’s conversation sets the table for understanding the investigation that’s about to occur. Ryan and I lay out the law and the basic questions that will need to be answered, like whether this is a non-international armed conflict, as the White House maintains, or something else and how that decision impacts the law that applies to determine whether it was a crime to kill the survivors of the initial attack on September 2. This conversation builds on my post Saturday evening, which you may want to review because it outlines the facts the Washington Post reported and some legal basics. It also relates back to the post I wrote after six Democratic members of Congress made a video reminding members of the military and intelligence communities that they should not obey illegal orders. At the time, Trump dismissed them as seditious, reposting a Truth Social poster who suggested George Washington would have hanged the six. Military and FBI investigations were opened. As we discussed, they were accurately stating the law, and the issue is one of the country, not partisan politics. We’re in this together, Joyce Upgrade to paid Share A guest post by Ryan Goodman Founding co-editor-in-chief of Just Security. NYU Law Professor. Former Special Counsel at Dept of Defense (2015-16). Former Harvard Prof. Yale PhD, Yale JD, Univ. of Texas BA. See links to YouTube Channel, Bluesky and more. Subscribe to Ryan You're currently a free subscriber to Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance . For the full experience, upgrade your subscription. Upgrade to paid   Like Comment Restack   © 2025 Joyce Vance 548 Market Street PMB 72296, San Francisco, CA 94104 Unsubscribe