I joined The Contrarian’s Norm Eisen for morning coffee and a chat with 4,000+ of our close friends during a roadside stop in Bessemer, Alabama. If you’ve sensed a shift in the mood and Donald Trump’s hold on MAGA and the country, you’re not alone. Norm and I discuss this new trend, which we’re cautiously optimistic about—cautiously, because Trump has shown an ability to wear people down, distract them, and outrun challenges to his primacy. The demand for release of the Epstein Files feels different, though, with people in MAGA demanding it despite the President’s clear desire to prevent information linking him to Epstein from coming to light. What’s your take? Is Trump about to face a Joseph McCarthy moment where Americans decide they’ve had enough, or can he successfully distract from the news cycle? And what can and should we be doing about it? We’re in this together, Joyce
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